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deni ferich


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Real Football Sunday, 8 October 2000, at 9:41 p.m. US Eastern Time

Football what football as far as I am concerned thats no football football is Brasil,Manchester United and the world cup governed by the Federation of Internacional Footbakll Associations ,your sport is a no hoper

   

Van Dieman

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Re: Real Football Sunday, 8 October 2000, at 11:23 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Football what football as far as I am concerned thats no football
> football is Brasil,Manchester United and the world cup governed by the
> Federation of Internacional Footbakll Associations ,your sport is a no
> hoper

Why don't you people just keep to yourselves, you and your pretentiousness about your precious 'Pommie Round Ball'.

For your information OUR game was the first to codify its rules and can therefor claim the word 'Football' unto itself - you can go find another name for your wierd game!

   

RW "KC Swan" Lipp

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« Re: Real Football Saturday, 14 October 2000, at 11:54 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Football what football as far as I am concerned thats no football
> football is Brasil,Manchester United and the world cup governed by the
> Federation of Internacional Footbakll Associations ,your sport is a no
> hoper

Well, considering this is clearly a troll, I don't expect you to come back. But if you do...

Hmmm...what is the #1 football league in the world by attendance? Well, that would be the NFL, American Football. Not your precious FIFA association.

Well then...what is the #2 football league in the world by attendance? Well now, that would be thge AFL, Australian Football. Still no sign of a round ball.

What do we find at #3? English Premier League! Finally, but look at those attendance numbers. In fact, you have to lump together the top 4 soccer leagues to have average attendance finally catch the NFL and AFL combined.

Look, you like going to a game where the fans have to sing songs to keep themselves awake in the stands? Fine, go ahead and enjoy yourselves. I'm sure you and the rest of the Vienna Boys Choir will have a great time.

-- RW "KC Swan" Lipp

   

deni ferich

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« Re: Real Football Tuesday, 17 October 2000, at 1:09 a.m. US Eastern Time

> Why don't you people just keep to yourselves, you and your
> pretentiousness about your precious 'Pommie Round Ball'.

> For your information OUR game was the first to codify its rules and can
> therefor claim the word 'Football' unto itself - you can go find another
> name for your wierd game!
Did you watch the Sydney games??They where playing football there but they where using a round ball yes they where and they where kicking that ball with there foot yes they where.But try telling or explaining to you hillbillies what football is and it sure aint what you play

   

Bob

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Re: Real Football Tuesday, 17 October 2000, at 10:51 a.m. US Eastern Time

> Did you watch the Sydney games??They where playing football there but
> they where using a round ball yes they where and they where kicking that
> ball with there foot yes they where.

One must keep in mind that the Olympics is a "world wide" event. They have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

   

Bob

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« Re: Real Football Tuesday, 17 October 2000, at 10:53 a.m. US Eastern Time

> Well, considering this is clearly a troll...

Don't hold it against Deni. He (she?) has probably been hit in the head with a soccer ball too many times and has lost all capacity for rational thought.

   

Van Dieman

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« Re: Real Football Tuesday, 17 October 2000, at 9:41 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Did you watch the Sydney games??They where playing football there but
> they where using a round ball yes they where and they where kicking that
> ball with there foot yes they where.But try telling or explaining to you
> hillbillies what football is and it sure aint what you play

Oh dear oh dear - let's see, 'pommie round ball' the ball comes of a players chest, his head or any part of their body (including the hand if they're guilish enough) and they call it football - oh and yes if perchance in one of those instances it goes through the goal (including off a defender) it value is the same as if it had come off the foot. at least in our game for a goal to be a goal it has to be kicked, free and clear.

   

Lisa Albergo

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« Re: Real Football Monday, 30 October 2000, at 9:06 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Did you watch the Sydney games??They where playing football there but
> they where using a round ball yes they where and they where kicking that
> ball with there foot yes they where.But try telling or explaining to you
> hillbillies what football is and it sure aint what you play

Australian football is the most physically demanding game of ANY team sport, and requires more skills than rugby, soccer, or American football.

How many soccer players could kick a goal from 40-60 meters out or soar 4-6 feet in the air to catch the ball while surrounded by a pack of players?
None, I bet.

Also, footy fans are better behaved than the thugs and hooligans which frequent your games. I wouldn't go to a soccer match if you paid me. Not with that kind of behavior. also, I have heard stories that Manchester United "buys" players" and that is why they are so dominant. The AFL equalized its competition years ago with a national draft, so all teams have a fair go.

On a final note, Australia and Ireland have come up with an annual hybrid game - a cross between Gaeilc Football and footy. The Aussies won it this year. I wonder how your precious pommies would fare against the Aussies in a hybrid footy/soccer match. My money would be on the Aussies. One tackle or hip and shoulder and those wimpy soccer boys would be on the sidelines.

Lisa
Chicago icago

   

Bob

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Re: Real Football Wednesday, 1 November 2000, at 6:10 a.m. US Eastern Time

> Australian football is the most physically demanding game of ANY team
> sport, and requires more skills than rugby, soccer, or American football.

It also requires more "toughness" than soccer. A soccer player will often fall to the ground and cry whenever someone from from the opposing team touches him. One good footy bump would probably end a soccer player's career.

> Also, footy fans are better behaved than the thugs and hooligans which
> frequent your games.

Maybe the reason soccer fans riot so often is that they're fed up with wasting their time and money on such a boring game.

   

deni ferich

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« Re: Real Football Thursday, 2 November 2000, at 8:16 p.m. US Eastern Time

> One must keep in mind that the Olympics is a "world wide"
> event. They have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Your game is has a major flaw to its rules and that is that it has no line or square or limit to how high one can kick.Lets say some wally of a freak is able to kick the ball sky high he would virtually be scoring a goal every time he gets the ball.Most sports have a line to cross or a net behind the square post and when the player or the ball passes that line it is a goal or a try like in rugby,but your game has no such limit.Further more most sports use round objects to play there game with this way a even polaying field is created and full skill is utilised.Australian rules is a looser it will never expand beyond its borders and australian kids of the future will see that to be part of the global village you have to play global sports.What if Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods,Magic Johnson or David Beckam played YOUR GAME would the record books be like,but 5they chose global sports competing against the worlds best.You aussies
dont like competing against the worlds best because you always loose,at the olympics you did not win anything that really counts in the real world,your men where bounced out in basketball,you are lousy in waterpolo,handball and volleyball,you did not win a game in the football,sure 5 gold medals in the pool but black men dont swim because there is no money in it and sure you are world champs in cricket and rugby league oh ye and netball too but heck where is the competition.
Football as the world knows it is played with a round ball its governed by the FEDERATION OF INTERNACIONAL FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS with over 200 member countries at all are welcome to come and compete against the worlds best if your chicken play your own game with your own rules and declare yourselves the worldsbest.

   

Van Dieman

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Re: Real Football Thursday, 2 November 2000, at 11:16 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Your game is has a major flaw to its rules and that is that it has no
> line or square or limit to how high one can kick.Lets say some wally of a

Same as in Pommie Roundball - you can kick the ball as high as you like.

> freak is able to kick the ball sky high he would virtually be scoring a
> goal every time he gets the ball.Most sports have a line to cross or a net
> behind the square post and when the player or the ball passes that line it
> is a goal or a try like in rugby,but your game has no such limit.Further

Just like Rugby League, Rugby Union, Gaelic Football, American Football and Canadian Football - in Aussie Rules the ball has to cross the goal line (that's the 21 feet [6.4m] between the 2 taller middle posts at either end of the ground - and before you go spouting off again go read the original 1862 rules of soccer

rule on scoring.

IV. A goal shall be won when the ball passes between the goal-posts or over the space between the goal-posts (at whatever height), not being thrown, knocked on, or carried.

Rather changed a lot hasn't it, gee you can even put the ball over the goal line by almost any means - oh that's right even kicking it in is allowed.

> more most sports use round objects to play there game with this way a even

^^^^^ their!
> polaying field is created and full skill is utilised.Australian rules is a

No let's see:
Football codes
round ball
pommie round ball
Gaelic football
Speedball
other shaped ball
Aussie Rules
Rugby Union
Rugby League
American Football
Canadian Football
Comball (common football/folkball)

> looser it will never expand beyond its borders and australian kids of the
> future will see that to be part of the global village you have to play
> global sports.

No, one doesn't only those who are duped by the belief that their game is real football. if what your suggesting Pommie roundball will soon be on the wayout to be replaced with basketball (as has happened in Greece), American Football (because it has the financial resources to swamp all other football codes - the salleries it pays it players makes the so-called big saleries of pommie roundball players look like peanuts) and Baseball.

> What if Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods,Magic Johnson or David
> Beckam played YOUR GAME would the record books be like,but 5they chose
> global sports competing against the worlds best.

No they chose to play the games/sports that they were best at.

> You aussies

I think you're over-looking the fact that this is the (A)ustralian (F)ootball (A)ssociation of (N)orth (A)merican - that's AFANA, it is not an Aussie site but one setup and run by North Americans.

> dont like competing against the worlds best because you always loose,at
> the olympics you did not win anything that really counts in the real

Let's see, 5th or 6th on the medal table that's better than about 130 other nations, many of them with much larger populations than Aussie.

> world,your men where bounced out in basketball,you are lousy in

Playing off for 5th 6th place in the men and for the gold in the women's is nothing to scoff at.

> waterpolo,handball and volleyball,you did not win a game in the

Our women won the waterpolo and beach volleyball gold medals, true the men didn't do as well,

> football,sure 5 gold medals in the pool but black men dont swim because

Try recounting the number of golds we won in the pool or don't women count.

> there is no money in it and sure you are world champs in cricket and rugby

Oh I see, it's all to do with dollars, in that case read above and take up, basketball, baseball or more importantly American Football.

> league oh ye and netball too but heck where is the competition.

Getting better each year.

> Football as the world knows it is played with a round ball its governed

^^^^^^^^ As I've told you elswhere, Australian Football, being the first to write it's rules down has first claim on the word 'football' and moral right to the word to name and describe it's game.

> by the FEDERATION OF INTERNACIONAL FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS with over 200

Actualy it's 197 countries, but good try.

> member countries at all are welcome to come and compete against the worlds
> best if your chicken play your own game with your own rules and declare
> yourselves the worldsbest.

That's something we've never done.

   

Tony

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« Re: Real Football Saturday, 4 November 2000, at 1:40 a.m. US Eastern Time

why do we have to argue about all this? I love soccer, I love Australian Football, but remember they are just games. ( of course there are a lot of European soccer fans that take their game too seriously by starting riots because the match ended in a draw instead of a winnig result >:o )

me personally, I honestly like soccer better but if my cable company would show fox sports World!!,I will get a refreshener on how great the game of Aussie Rules footy is :) and maybe I will like that game better.

must have fox sports world...........

   

Lisa Albergo

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« Re: Real Football Saturday, 4 November 2000, at 7:04 p.m. US Eastern Time

> Your game is has a major flaw to its rules and that is that it has no
> line or square or limit to how high one can kick.Lets say some wally of a
> freak is able to kick the ball sky high he would virtually be scoring a
> goal every time he gets the ball.Most sports have a line to cross or a net
> behind the square post and when the player or the ball passes that line it
> is a goal or a try like in rugby,but your game has no such limit.Further
> more most sports use round objects to play there game with this way a even
> polaying field is created and full skill is utilised.Australian rules is a
> looser it will never expand beyond its borders and australian kids of the
> future will see that to be part of the global village you have to play
> global sports.What if Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods,Magic Johnson or David
> Beckam played YOUR GAME would the record books be like,but 5they chose
> global sports competing against the worlds best.You aussies
> dont like competing against the worlds best because you always loose,at
> the olympics you did not win anything that really counts in the real
> world,your men where bounced out in basketball,you are lousy in
> waterpolo,handball and volleyball,you did not win a game in the
> football,sure 5 gold medals in the pool but black men dont swim because
> there is no money in it and sure you are world champs in cricket and rugby
> league oh ye and netball too but heck where is the competition.
> Football as the world knows it is played with a round ball its governed
> by the FEDERATION OF INTERNACIONAL FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS with over 200
> member countries at all are welcome to come and compete against the worlds
> best if your chicken play your own game with your own rules and declare
> yourselves the worldsbest.

Footy is also going international and has been for some time. It may be at an amateur stage now, but it will continue to grow.
There is also the International Australian Fotoball Council.
There are numerous footy teams throughout the world: USA, Canada, Denmark, England, Ireland, Samoa, New Guinea, Japan - just to name a few. And plans are already in motion for an international world cup to be held in Melbourne in 2 years time.
Regarding your mention of other sports champions, there have been a number of footy players who excelled at other sports. Geelong Cat Mike Mansfield also played cricket. Melbourne Demon rookie Brad Green played with the junior Manchester United team before concentrating on football, retired Richmond Tiger Justin Charles juggled baseball and footy. Years ago, before footy became as professional as it is today, there were footy players who also took part in the Olympics in sports such as swimming, running, and horsemanship. How many of your precious soccer fans can claim similar feats?

Lisa
Chicago icago

   

nicole

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« Re: Real Football Tuesday, 2 January 2001, at 7:49 p.m. US Eastern Time

u really need a life and u need to stop bagging australia. lets look at the population of australia and the rest of the world. we have 18 million people and we did pretty damn good in the olympics to get that many medals. we had the best ratio of population compared to how many medals we won.
what have u got against australia and why do u keep bagging us and our game? have u ever been here to see the country?
stop bagging our game. its the most fast and skill full in the world and we dont need to expand into any other countries cause its big enough here!

   

Rob de Santos

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Re: Real Football Tuesday, 2 January 2001, at 8:29 p.m. US Eastern Time

Dear Nicole and all,

Mr. Ferich and his antics have been brought to my attention. He's just trying to incite people here... stop wasting energy answering him. You won't change his mind. He doesn't represent Americans or Aussies and doesn't like footy.

Regards,
Rob de Santos
AFANA Chairman

> u really need a life and u need to stop bagging australia. lets look at
> the population of australia and the rest of the world. we have 18 million
> people and we did pretty damn good in the olympics to get that many
> medals. we had the best ratio of population compared to how many medals we
> won.
> what have u got against australia and why do u keep bagging us and our
> game? have u ever been here to see the country?
> stop bagging our game. its the most fast and skill full in the world and
> we dont need to expand into any other countries cause its big enough here!

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